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Post by willbishop119 on Jun 25, 2013 12:54:06 GMT
To answer your question Mr. Akkerman , I have the reason to believe that the mother of Walter has the most influence on the whole family. The mother seems to be the only person with the right mindset to make decisions out the whole family. The couple Walter and Ruth has a lot to learn they have to learn to talk about thing and Walter needs to learn that a bottle doesn’t always fix your problem. So what the mother say will more than likely go in that household. Mr. Austin, yes mama does have more knowledge and experience being the oldest in the household. Since it was her husband that passed away I also believe she has the right to the money and make the decision of what is going to happen with the money. During this time period though women and colored people did not have all the rights what they deserved and that might be a reason why Mama could not stand up against Walter being the man of the house. Do you believe that Walter is ignorant trusting willy Harris which runs away with the liquor store money? Mr. Akkerman, yes I do believe that Walter is ignorant trusting Willy Harris with the liquor store money, knowing that he may not be trustworthy. Mr. Austin is also correct, Walter needs to learn that the bottle will not solve his problems, nor does he seem the have the right mindset to run the family, which mama seems to be the best suited for, and yes mama should have the right to the money since it was her husband who died, but you are correct about the day and age of this society during this time period.
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Post by Adam Jones on Jun 25, 2013 12:54:35 GMT
A tense moment in "A Raisin in the Sun" was during the first act when Ruth and Walter start fighting about the check that they are expecting from the life insurance company, and their overall happiness. Ruth was making breakfast for her son Travis while they were arguing. Ruth told her husband Walter to "Eat you eggs", this is a tense and symbolic moment in the story because Walter fells like he is no allowed to make any decisions and not respected throughout the household. When Walter was told to eat his eggs, Ruth was basically telling him to be quiet and that his opinion didn’t matter. At this time Walter does not know that Ruth is pregnant and she feels that he is not making the right decision. This is an internal conflict because if Walter knew that his wife was pregnant he would have a different outlook in the matter at hand. I agree with the response, a few times in the story it stresses that Walter feels like he has no dominance over the family any more. He can’t provide money for his family and the money that he getting, he can’t even decide what they can spend the money on. He wants to go in with some friends on a liquor store, he believes that it will make a lot of money and restore his dominance in the family. Yes i think this is the sole reason that Walter wants to open a liquor store because he has issues that his family doesn't respect him. But i also think it has a lot to do with the way his wife treats him sometimes, like when she said "eat your eggs", you can tell that really got under his skin that his wife was undermining him. I feel that even if it hadn't been a liquor store he was just looking for a way to be the sole provider for his family so that he would be looked at as the man of the house and have more authority. I think the liquor store idea was all Willy's idea because he knew Walter would want that. I think Willy just used him to get something he wanted being it be the liquor store or just the money. Do you think that Willy was setting him up from the beginning to steal his money or just saw an opportunity and took off with it?
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Post by jaymedossett on Jun 25, 2013 12:56:44 GMT
In the story A Raisin in the sun an exciting part in the story was when, Walter, Ruth and Benetha were arguing with each other. Walter was trying to talk his younger sister out of going to med school so that he could use the money that his mom would give her for school, for him and his buddies to buy a liquor store. Then Walter drags his wife into it by saying that they have done allot for he and she owes it to them. The author uses the literary device “point of view” by giving you play by play of what each person says and the context of how that said it. Example “ Walter. It ain’t that nobody expects you to get on your knees and say thank you. Beneatha. (dropping to her knees). Well I do all right? Thank you everybody and forgiver me for ever wanting to be anything at all! ( pursuing him on her knees across the floor) FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME!” This gives a first person account of the argument and the develops it by bringing it to life an gives a mental picture to the reader. The author also uses conflict to develop this excitement in the story. By having these three characters In a conflict it stirs interest in the plot and the overall story and also mixed emotions for the reader not knowing whos side to be on. Do you pick Walter and Ruth and there dream of making more money and getting out of there crappy little apartment, or do you choose Beneatha side? Who just wants to make something of herself by becoming a doctor and helping people. I would like to add that i think its the conflict that keeps that makes the story exciting. All the conflict in the story works against each other in the right way to make it so exciting and catching. All the argueing going on makes the readers want to keep on reading trying to figure out whats going to happen. The conflict is what most of the story consist of. It keeps the story full of mixed emotions about everything and everyone. Since the story is exciting people keep reading and they find out that they can actually relate to this story from many different prespectives. I also agree with the main conflict in the story being the check. It is causing the family to stress out even more about how they are going to spend it. None of them agree on the ways to spend it, and it is causing an uprising of eventful events in the story. Walter wanted to use the money for a liquor store which got him nowhere because he is an idiot. The money should have been used for someone to better themselves by getting an education
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Post by jeffreymonroe1 on Jun 25, 2013 12:56:57 GMT
In the “A Raisin in the Sun Mama comes in from a long day. Walter is wanting to know where she has been. Mama ignores him and ask Ruth where Travis is. Ruth informs her while Walter is still trying to get Mamas attention. She finally acknowledges him . Walter just wanted to know where see had been all day. Mama tells walter that she had business to take care of. Once walter questions her business. Mama tesl him he should know better that to question her. Then walter gets prideful and ask his mama if she went and spent a crazy amount of the insurance money. The author uses controversy between the Mama and Walter rolls. Maybe hinting that they both know more than meets the eye. One could say that the mother is irresponsible and can’t hold on to the money that was given to her respectfully. This controversy will make an audience misconstrue the truth and make I more difficult to see the honest person in the end. JUstin myrick- I agree with monroe that they do know more than what is actually put on the table and the mother is not good at holding onto money making things difficult and also making it hard to find who is the honest person This happens to all people that enherit money from a loved one, or win money from a lottery. The people think they are entitled to a portion or all of the money for what ever reason they may thing of. Some times it's I help you, you owe me. Other times it's I put some money in to I'm your family give me some. But there are the few people out there that are selfless and want nothing more that their ffamily to be happy. This is sad as well for this person usualy gets used and doen't get the cedit they deserve.
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Post by justinmy on Jun 25, 2013 13:00:33 GMT
The point in the story that i choose, that wasn’t so to say,exciting,but rather opened you up to how the characters live and how money is really an issue in the family. This is point is made in the beginning of the story when the family is just waking up and the story is describing how they share a bathroom with their neighboring housing in the apartment complex. Already that tells you that the family doesn’t have enough money right there. Then before Travis leaves for school he informs Ruth and Walter that he needs fifty cents for school. Ruth says to Travis that we don’t have it, and Travis begins to aggravate her. Walter then gives Travis a whole dollar and then he is off to school. To me the story uses characterization to explain how the characters are. It tells you bits and pieces about each of them so that you kind of build up enough information to find out what kind of person the characters are. justin Myrick- I agree with jayme, this part kinda sets the plot and the characters for the story, it informs the audience that the family is very poor and barely has enough money to give the son 50 cents for school.
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Post by willbishop119 on Jun 25, 2013 13:01:06 GMT
Tension first arises in a raisin in the sun when Travis asks Walter for money and Ruth immediately refuses saying “we don’t have it.” Walter, trying to be a good father and help his son be accepted at school, gives him twice the amount he asked for. He does this realizing he will have to ask Ruth for more money for his own cab fare later. This act sparks a conflict about the use of an insurance check and how it should be spent. Walter makes the suggestion of investing in a liquor store and Ruth shoots him down saying “eat ya eggs” meaning shut up. This sets the basic recurring theme (arguing about money) for the story. Mr. Hughes, I agree with you, he is trying to be a good father, and help his son be accepted, but he also just gave away the money that he needed for a cab fare later on. The conflict is just beginning at this point in the story, and when she tells him "eat ya eggs" she is meaning to tell him to shut up.
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Post by jaymedossett on Jun 25, 2013 13:03:15 GMT
Discussion question 1 In the story "Ä raisin in the Sun" the author uses conflict between the characters in the story to make it catchier. The conflict in the story is the character in the story knows what they would like to do with the money they are going to get from the insurance policy from Mr. Younger’s death. The characters knew what they wanted to do but also knew they couldn't have everything they wanted, so they had to make a family decision. I think the excitement the author gave out from the story was that the family had a conflict and decisions can be rough on people but a family can still stick together. People reading this story can relate because there is always decisions that involve family and what will be the beneficial result for everybody. Mr. Justin I do agree with you about people being able to relate to this story because everyone and some point in time have had a argument with a family member about not seeing eye to eye on a subject. i feel like the writer knows this and uses it to her advantage because people like reading things that they can relate to and that they can maybe see themselves doing the same things with their own family. i really feel that Mama got cheated out of he money and needed to stand up tell her good for nothing son it was her money.
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Post by jaymedossett on Jun 25, 2013 13:04:03 GMT
Discussion question 1 In the story "Ä raisin in the Sun" the author uses conflict between the characters in the story to make it catchier. The conflict in the story is the character in the story knows what they would like to do with the money they are going to get from the insurance policy from Mr. Younger’s death. The characters knew what they wanted to do but also knew they couldn't have everything they wanted, so they had to make a family decision. I think the excitement the author gave out from the story was that the family had a conflict and decisions can be rough on people but a family can still stick together. People reading this story can relate because there is always decisions that involve family and what will be the beneficial result for everybody. Mr. Justin I do agree with you about people being able to relate to this story because everyone and some point in time have had a argument with a family member about not seeing eye to eye on a subject. i feel like the writer knows this and uses it to her advantage because people like reading things that they can relate to and that they can maybe see themselves doing the same things with their own family. i really feel that Mama got cheated out of he money and needed to stand up tell her good for nothing son it was her money. I don’t agree with this post the characters knew what they wanted to do with this insurance money, but did not actually think their plans through. The characters all had dreams, but did not do the research and caretaking to ensure that the money that was giving to them was safe, instead they trusted walter to save money for an education which could better the family, instead he takes a risk and invest it all and loses every bit of it.
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Post by justinmy on Jun 25, 2013 13:10:06 GMT
In the story A Raisin in the sun an exciting part in the story was when, Walter, Ruth and Benetha were arguing with each other. Walter was trying to talk his younger sister out of going to med school so that he could use the money that his mom would give her for school, for him and his buddies to buy a liquor store. Then Walter drags his wife into it by saying that they have done allot for he and she owes it to them. The author uses the literary device “point of view” by giving you play by play of what each person says and the context of how that said it. Example “ Walter. It ain’t that nobody expects you to get on your knees and say thank you. Beneatha. (dropping to her knees). Well I do all right? Thank you everybody and forgiver me for ever wanting to be anything at all! ( pursuing him on her knees across the floor) FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME!” This gives a first person account of the argument and the develops it by bringing it to life an gives a mental picture to the reader. The author also uses conflict to develop this excitement in the story. By having these three characters In a conflict it stirs interest in the plot and the overall story and also mixed emotions for the reader not knowing whos side to be on. Do you pick Walter and Ruth and there dream of making more money and getting out of there crappy little apartment, or do you choose Beneatha side? Who just wants to make something of herself by becoming a doctor and helping people. The characters all have different views and opinion; this gives the story an exciting edge and keeps the readers interested. I believe that Walter and Ruth idea what they want to do with the money has the correct intension and want to help out the whole family and improve their lives. Walters plan with the liquor store is not exactly thought through and he trusts a very sneaky man to handle his money for the liquor store which ends up back firing at him. Beneatha side plan is a little more self-fish and she just want to improve her own life, and follow her dreams which is great for her to travel to Africa and help people but that leaves the rest in the family in the same crappy situation. Do you think that the grandma's idea is better than Walter's and beneatha's ? Did you find any symbols in the story?
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Post by willbishop119 on Jun 25, 2013 13:11:53 GMT
I honestly think that Walter may have not smart enough to even worry about trusting Willy Harris because he had stars in his eyes about opening a liquor and being the main provider in his house. Walter always had issues with his family about being respected and not being able to make decisions. He saw this as an opportunity to get more respect from the family because he would be the sole provider and man of the house. Dramatic irony happens because Walter looses the money and it makes him look/feel even more like a failure to his family. I agree with the fact that Walter could have been oblivious to the scheme that was being pulled by his drunken friends. He had always had a dream of being a big business man and this was an opportunity that had been laid out in front of him. As you also pointed out he was most likely eager to go into it to try to be the main provider of his household as he feels he should be. Yes, Walter could have been oblivious, or just did not really think his drunken friends would do him the way they did, but either way alter was swindled. Also Walter could have just been so concentrated on being a big business man and the main provider for his family he lost all senses of warning, and fear of failure.
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Post by willbishop119 on Jun 25, 2013 13:18:35 GMT
In the “A Raisin in the Sun Mama comes in from a long day. Walter is wanting to know where she has been. Mama ignores him and ask Ruth where Travis is. Ruth informs her while Walter is still trying to get Mamas attention. She finally acknowledges him . Walter just wanted to know where see had been all day. Mama tells walter that she had business to take care of. Once walter questions her business. Mama tesl him he should know better that to question her. Then walter gets prideful and ask his mama if she went and spent a crazy amount of the insurance money. The author uses controversy between the Mama and Walter rolls. Maybe hinting that they both know more than meets the eye. One could say that the mother is irresponsible and can’t hold on to the money that was given to her respectfully. This controversy will make an audience misconstrue the truth and make I more difficult to see the honest person in the end. I agree with you Mr. Monroe, through all the controversy the reader may lose sight of what is actually right, and what is indeed really wrong. The money that mama received was respectfully given to her, although she did not earn it, but Walter being disrespectful while questioning his mama about the money is wrong, while Ruth asks the same thing, but in a respectful, hidden way.
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Post by Jarod Wills on Jun 25, 2013 13:25:42 GMT
Lorraine Hansberry uses characterization to lead into a conflict half way through A Raisin In The Sun. Walter characterizes Murchison’s father while talking to him. He describes him as being a smart man and says he knows how to operate. After building him up a little he brings him back down by saying he thinks his father is running out of ideas though. Walter wants to talk to Murchison’s father about some ideas he thinks will turn the city upside down. Murchison doesn’t take Walter seriously, gets bored and says, “Yeah-sometimes we’ll have to do that, Walter.” Walter gets offended and starts making fun of Murchison about going to school and being too busy. So I guess characterization leads into the conflict and it also leads you out of the conflict. Right after Walter gets done belittling Murchison he starts to describe himself as a giant among ants that can’t even understand what the giant is saying.
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Post by jaymedossett on Jun 25, 2013 13:28:28 GMT
Writing about an exciting moment in A Raisin in the Sun. the mother of Walter and himself were talking about a better life. As the two were talking the mother mentioned that Ruth, the wife of Walter, was with child. Walter had no knowledge that Ruth was pregnant. The mother stated that she wanted to get rid of the child before birth. Walter was stunned to hear that. She believe that the family could not afford another child. The Author uses a tone that tell that this family have live through hard times. The receives ten thousand dollars. The money brings the question that do they keep the child or do not. This express the tone explicitly. The family was in a weird moment then the money come in the scene and everyone is happy. The mother wanted her son to talk to his wife to make a decision on the upcoming child. Walter did not want to entertain the subject. The author also have a conflict in the story when it comes to the money. The mother wants to get a home with the movie other want to invest the money. Justin Myrick- the family could deal with the baby it would have been tough before without the money but they have a little more now so it would help things a little. also, the family would need to invest the money and build it up then they would have plenty more to go on I don’t agree with this post the characters knew what they wanted to do with this insurance money, but did not actually think their plans through. The characters all had dreams, but did not do the research and caretaking to ensure that the money that was giving to them was safe, instead they trusted walter to save money for an education which could better the family, instead he takes a risk and invest it all and loses every bit of it.
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Post by jaymedossett on Jun 25, 2013 13:32:08 GMT
Mr. Austin, yes mama does have more knowledge and experience being the oldest in the household. Since it was her husband that passed away I also believe she has the right to the money and make the decision of what is going to happen with the money. During this time period though women and colored people did not have all the rights what they deserved and that might be a reason why Mama could not stand up against Walter being the man of the house. Do you believe that Walter is ignorant trusting willy Harris which runs away with the liquor store money? Mr. Akkerman, yes I do believe that Walter is ignorant trusting Willy Harris with the liquor store money, knowing that he may not be trustworthy. Mr. Austin is also correct, Walter needs to learn that the bottle will not solve his problems, nor does he seem the have the right mindset to run the family, which mama seems to be the best suited for, and yes mama should have the right to the money since it was her husband who died, but you are correct about the day and age of this society during this time period. The mother wise to invest in a house but what about when the money was gone and the house still had to be paid off. How was the family going to get the money to pay for that as well. Also going out drinking at a bar spending money that he didn’t have and that could have been spent on his family was not very wise either. Especially when the family finds out that Ruth was pregnant.
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Post by jaymedossett on Jun 25, 2013 13:38:07 GMT
In the “A Raisin in the Sun Mama comes in from a long day. Walter is wanting to know where she has been. Mama ignores him and ask Ruth where Travis is. Ruth informs her while Walter is still trying to get Mamas attention. She finally acknowledges him . Walter just wanted to know where see had been all day. Mama tells walter that she had business to take care of. Once walter questions her business. Mama tesl him he should know better that to question her. Then walter gets prideful and ask his mama if she went and spent a crazy amount of the insurance money. The author uses controversy between the Mama and Walter rolls. Maybe hinting that they both know more than meets the eye. One could say that the mother is irresponsible and can’t hold on to the money that was given to her respectfully. This controversy will make an audience misconstrue the truth and make I more difficult to see the honest person in the end. I think the post brings up again, Walters lack of feeling dominant in the family. The mother is the older wiser one in the family but in this point in time the man in the household is supposed to be most dominant one supporting his family. Also this begins to tell how the money is stressing everyone out and starting to make them questioning each other’s ability to spend the money.
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