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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 20, 2013 18:20:40 GMT
choose a tense or exciting moment in "Oedipus Rex" or "A Raisin in the Sun". what literary device or convention did the author use to develop that moment?
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Post by johnharrison on Jun 20, 2013 18:23:47 GMT
In the story A Raisin in the sun an exciting part in the story was when, Walter, Ruth and Benetha were arguing with each other. Walter was trying to talk his younger sister out of going to med school so that he could use the money that his mom would give her for school, for him and his buddies to buy a liquor store. Then Walter drags his wife into it by saying that they have done allot for he and she owes it to them. The author uses the literary device “point of view” by giving you play by play of what each person says and the context of how that said it. Example “ Walter. It ain’t that nobody expects you to get on your knees and say thank you. Beneatha. (dropping to her knees). Well I do all right? Thank you everybody and forgiver me for ever wanting to be anything at all! ( pursuing him on her knees across the floor) FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME!” This gives a first person account of the argument and the develops it by bringing it to life an gives a mental picture to the reader. The author also uses conflict to develop this excitement in the story. By having these three characters In a conflict it stirs interest in the plot and the overall story and also mixed emotions for the reader not knowing whos side to be on. Do you pick Walter and Ruth and there dream of making more money and getting out of there crappy little apartment, or do you choose Beneatha side? Who just wants to make something of herself by becoming a doctor and helping people.
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Post by jeffreymonroe1 on Jun 23, 2013 18:17:30 GMT
In the “A Raisin in the Sun Mama comes in from a long day. Walter is wanting to know where she has been. Mama ignores him and ask Ruth where Travis is. Ruth informs her while Walter is still trying to get Mamas attention. She finally acknowledges him . Walter just wanted to know where see had been all day. Mama tells walter that she had business to take care of. Once walter questions her business. Mama tesl him he should know better that to question her. Then walter gets prideful and ask his mama if she went and spent a crazy amount of the insurance money.
The author uses controversy between the Mama and Walter rolls. Maybe hinting that they both know more than meets the eye. One could say that the mother is irresponsible and can’t hold on to the money that was given to her respectfully. This controversy will make an audience misconstrue the truth and make I more difficult to see the honest person in the end.
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Post by Eddie Austin on Jun 24, 2013 3:39:16 GMT
Writing about an exciting moment in A Raisin in the Sun. the mother of Walter and himself were talking about a better life. As the two were talking the mother mentioned that Ruth, the wife of Walter, was with child. Walter had no knowledge that Ruth was pregnant. The mother stated that she wanted to get rid of the child before birth. Walter was stunned to hear that. She believe that the family could not afford another child. The Author uses a tone that tell that this family have live through hard times. The receives ten thousand dollars. The money brings the question that do they keep the child or do not. This express the tone explicitly. The family was in a weird moment then the money come in the scene and everyone is happy. The mother wanted her son to talk to his wife to make a decision on the upcoming child. Walter did not want to entertain the subject. The author also have a conflict in the story when it comes to the money. The mother wants to get a home with the movie other want to invest the money.
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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 24, 2013 13:14:25 GMT
The exciting moment in the story “A raisin in the sun” was in the first act of the story when Walter and Ruth start arguing about their happiness and the check they will be expecting from the life insurance money. During this time Ruth was making breakfast for Travis (son of Walter and Ruth) while the arguing kept going on between the two adults. Ruth told Walter “Eat your eggs” this is a symbol and a dramatic event in the story. This symbol means that Walter feels like that he is not respected in his household and is not allowed to make decisions. When his wife tells him to “eat your eggs” she tells him to be quiet and his opinion doesn’t matter in Walters’s point of view. But in contrast Ruth has an internal conflict knowing she has a child on the way and she wants to take care of her family, and has full confidence in Walter but believe he is not making the right decision at the moment for the best interest for the family.
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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 24, 2013 14:56:13 GMT
In the “A Raisin in the Sun Mama comes in from a long day. Walter is wanting to know where she has been. Mama ignores him and ask Ruth where Travis is. Ruth informs her while Walter is still trying to get Mamas attention. She finally acknowledges him . Walter just wanted to know where see had been all day. Mama tells walter that she had business to take care of. Once walter questions her business. Mama tesl him he should know better that to question her. Then walter gets prideful and ask his mama if she went and spent a crazy amount of the insurance money. The author uses controversy between the Mama and Walter rolls. Maybe hinting that they both know more than meets the eye. One could say that the mother is irresponsible and can’t hold on to the money that was given to her respectfully. This controversy will make an audience misconstrue the truth and make I more difficult to see the honest person in the end. Walter and Mama had very different opinion what was the best what should happen with the insurance money, I agree that most of the controversy in the family is money. which sadly enough most of the time will brake or make a family, but in this case every body in the family has a different idea. I believe that for the best interest of the family Mama has the best interest for the family in investing into a newer and bigger house. Walter idea of gambling the money into a liquor store is a better option for the family. I believe that both are honest and believe their plans work but just a third party mess up Walters plan.
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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 24, 2013 19:04:32 GMT
Writing about an exciting moment in A Raisin in the Sun. the mother of Walter and himself were talking about a better life. As the two were talking the mother mentioned that Ruth, the wife of Walter, was with child. Walter had no knowledge that Ruth was pregnant. The mother stated that she wanted to get rid of the child before birth. Walter was stunned to hear that. She believe that the family could not afford another child. The Author uses a tone that tell that this family have live through hard times. The receives ten thousand dollars. The money brings the question that do they keep the child or do not. This express the tone explicitly. The family was in a weird moment then the money come in the scene and everyone is happy. The mother wanted her son to talk to his wife to make a decision on the upcoming child. Walter did not want to entertain the subject. The author also have a conflict in the story when it comes to the money. The mother wants to get a home with the movie other want to invest the money. I agree, that the tone in the story was in a sad, and depressing mood. The family is struggling with money, and keeps secret from each other what they have in mind for the money they want from the life insurance money. I find it very immature that Walter does not want to face the fact that his wife is pregnant with another child, and just ignoring the fact that he needs to put his family first, because he believes that the gamble with the liquor store will change their lives. I believe that the mother changes the mood and tone of the story, she changes the attitude of all the characters. I believe the plant she takes care off represents the family because she nourishes the plant in the difficult time and its still flourishes, she tries the same for the family. who do you believe has the best influence on the family ?
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Post by Eddie Austin on Jun 24, 2013 19:49:26 GMT
The exciting moment in the story “A raisin in the sun” was in the first act of the story when Walter and Ruth start arguing about their happiness and the check they will be expecting from the life insurance money. During this time Ruth was making breakfast for Travis (son of Walter and Ruth) while the arguing kept going on between the two adults. Ruth told Walter “Eat your eggs” this is a symbol and a dramatic event in the story. This symbol means that Walter feels like that he is not respected in his household and is not allowed to make decisions. When his wife tells him to “eat your eggs” she tells him to be quiet and his opinion doesn’t matter in Walters’s point of view. But in contrast Ruth has an internal conflict knowing she has a child on the way and she wants to take care of her family, and has full confidence in Walter but believe he is not making the right decision at the moment for the best interest for the family. This post is very much true. Ruth knows things that Walter doesn’t. She knows that she is with child and every decision that is made from now on will affect the upcoming moment. Yes Walter feels that he is not getting the respect he should be given. Ruth should not be hiding thing that is that big. The decision of the money technically is not hers to choose. Walter mother and Walter decisions comes before hers. It all is just a decision that will have to be sat down and be depth with.
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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 24, 2013 20:05:18 GMT
In the story A Raisin in the sun an exciting part in the story was when, Walter, Ruth and Benetha were arguing with each other. Walter was trying to talk his younger sister out of going to med school so that he could use the money that his mom would give her for school, for him and his buddies to buy a liquor store. Then Walter drags his wife into it by saying that they have done allot for he and she owes it to them. The author uses the literary device “point of view” by giving you play by play of what each person says and the context of how that said it. Example “ Walter. It ain’t that nobody expects you to get on your knees and say thank you. Beneatha. (dropping to her knees). Well I do all right? Thank you everybody and forgiver me for ever wanting to be anything at all! ( pursuing him on her knees across the floor) FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME!” This gives a first person account of the argument and the develops it by bringing it to life an gives a mental picture to the reader. The author also uses conflict to develop this excitement in the story. By having these three characters In a conflict it stirs interest in the plot and the overall story and also mixed emotions for the reader not knowing whos side to be on. Do you pick Walter and Ruth and there dream of making more money and getting out of there crappy little apartment, or do you choose Beneatha side? Who just wants to make something of herself by becoming a doctor and helping people. The characters all have different views and opinion; this gives the story an exciting edge and keeps the readers interested. I believe that Walter and Ruth idea what they want to do with the money has the correct intension and want to help out the whole family and improve their lives. Walters plan with the liquor store is not exactly thought through and he trusts a very sneaky man to handle his money for the liquor store which ends up back firing at him. Beneatha side plan is a little more self-fish and she just want to improve her own life, and follow her dreams which is great for her to travel to Africa and help people but that leaves the rest in the family in the same crappy situation. Do you think that the grandma's idea is better than Walter's and beneatha's ? Did you find any symbols in the story?
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Post by wilder0329 on Jun 24, 2013 20:15:06 GMT
Well in the story "Ä raisin in the Sun" the author uses some controversy between the characters in the story to make interesting. By controversy I mean makes the characters make decisions of what they want and what they need. The controversy or the arguement in the story is each adult character in the story has a dream of what they would like to do with the money they are going to get from the insurance policy from Mr. Youngers death. Even though each one of the characters had dreams they couldn't have them all, so they had to choose from what they really needed for the whole family. I think that the author made this story exciting and interesting to the readers by, using arguements and tough life decisions to show them and the readers that no matter what if you stick together as family nothing can tear you apart. The reason its interesting to the readers is that everyone can relate to them by having dreams of what they wanted but also had to make choices so they could still survive and better thier familys.
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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 24, 2013 20:19:14 GMT
The exciting moment in the story “A raisin in the sun” was in the first act of the story when Walter and Ruth start arguing about their happiness and the check they will be expecting from the life insurance money. During this time Ruth was making breakfast for Travis (son of Walter and Ruth) while the arguing kept going on between the two adults. Ruth told Walter “Eat your eggs” this is a symbol and a dramatic event in the story. This symbol means that Walter feels like that he is not respected in his household and is not allowed to make decisions. When his wife tells him to “eat your eggs” she tells him to be quiet and his opinion doesn’t matter in Walters’s point of view. But in contrast Ruth has an internal conflict knowing she has a child on the way and she wants to take care of her family, and has full confidence in Walter but believe he is not making the right decision at the moment for the best interest for the family. This post is very much true. Ruth knows things that Walter doesn’t. She knows that she is with child and every decision that is made from now on will affect the upcoming moment. Yes Walter feels that he is not getting the respect he should be given. Ruth should not be hiding thing that is that big. The decision of the money technically is not hers to choose. Walter mother and Walter decisions comes before hers. It all is just a decision that will have to be sat down and be depth with. Eddie, you do not believe that Beneatha (The daughter) has an opinion on where the money is going? She has the big dream of using the money towards medical school to become a doctor and she wants to give back to her African heritage, and help people in Africa. Walter believes this is a waste of money and I do believe also this will not benefit the family. Do you think the setting has effect on the story? Does the time frame affect the story? Think back to the white community offering them money to not move in.
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Post by Eddie Austin on Jun 24, 2013 20:24:01 GMT
Writing about an exciting moment in A Raisin in the Sun. the mother of Walter and himself were talking about a better life. As the two were talking the mother mentioned that Ruth, the wife of Walter, was with child. Walter had no knowledge that Ruth was pregnant. The mother stated that she wanted to get rid of the child before birth. Walter was stunned to hear that. She believe that the family could not afford another child. The Author uses a tone that tell that this family have live through hard times. The receives ten thousand dollars. The money brings the question that do they keep the child or do not. This express the tone explicitly. The family was in a weird moment then the money come in the scene and everyone is happy. The mother wanted her son to talk to his wife to make a decision on the upcoming child. Walter did not want to entertain the subject. The author also have a conflict in the story when it comes to the money. The mother wants to get a home with the movie other want to invest the money. I agree, that the tone in the story was in a sad, and depressing mood. The family is struggling with money, and keeps secret from each other what they have in mind for the money they want from the life insurance money. I find it very immature that Walter does not want to face the fact that his wife is pregnant with another child, and just ignoring the fact that he needs to put his family first, because he believes that the gamble with the liquor store will change their lives. I believe that the mother changes the mood and tone of the story, she changes the attitude of all the characters. I believe the plant she takes care off represents the family because she nourishes the plant in the difficult time and its still flourishes, she tries the same for the family. who do you believe has the best influence on the family ? To answer your question Mr. Akkerman , I have the reason to believe that the mother of Walter has the most influence on the whole family. The mother seems to be the only person with the right mindset to make decisions out the whole family. The couple Walter and Ruth has a lot to learn they have to learn to talk about thing and Walter needs to learn that a bottle doesn’t always fix your problem. So what the mother say will more than likely go in that household.
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Post by nielsakkerman1 on Jun 24, 2013 20:45:17 GMT
Well in the story "Ä raisin in the Sun" the author uses some controversy between the characters in the story to make interesting. By controversy I mean makes the characters make decisions of what they want and what they need. The controversy or the arguement in the story is each adult character in the story has a dream of what they would like to do with the money they are going to get from the insurance policy from Mr. Youngers death. Even though each one of the characters had dreams they couldn't have them all, so they had to choose from what they really needed for the whole family. I think that the author made this story exciting and interesting to the readers by, using arguements and tough life decisions to show them and the readers that no matter what if you stick together as family nothing can tear you apart. The reason its interesting to the readers is that everyone can relate to them by having dreams of what they wanted but also had to make choices so they could still survive and better thier family's. Woodrow, what I understand from your response is that the characters have external conflicts among each other. One of the external conflicts you described was about the insurance money, and how it will be spend. I also found that an external conflict was between Ruth and Walter about the new child that might be coming and whether to get an abortion or not because of financial reasons. I also found some internal conflicts, did you find any internal conflicts?
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Post by johnharrison on Jun 24, 2013 20:48:55 GMT
In the story A Raisin in the sun an exciting part in the story was when, Walter, Ruth and Benetha were arguing with each other. Walter was trying to talk his younger sister out of going to med school so that he could use the money that his mom would give her for school, for him and his buddies to buy a liquor store. Then Walter drags his wife into it by saying that they have done allot for he and she owes it to them. The author uses the literary device “point of view” by giving you play by play of what each person says and the context of how that said it. Example “ Walter. It ain’t that nobody expects you to get on your knees and say thank you. Beneatha. (dropping to her knees). Well I do all right? Thank you everybody and forgiver me for ever wanting to be anything at all! ( pursuing him on her knees across the floor) FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME, FORGIVE ME!” This gives a first person account of the argument and the develops it by bringing it to life an gives a mental picture to the reader. The author also uses conflict to develop this excitement in the story. By having these three characters In a conflict it stirs interest in the plot and the overall story and also mixed emotions for the reader not knowing whos side to be on. Do you pick Walter and Ruth and there dream of making more money and getting out of there crappy little apartment, or do you choose Beneatha side? Who just wants to make something of herself by becoming a doctor and helping people. The characters all have different views and opinion; this gives the story an exciting edge and keeps the readers interested. I believe that Walter and Ruth idea what they want to do with the money has the correct intension and want to help out the whole family and improve their lives. Walters plan with the liquor store is not exactly thought through and he trusts a very sneaky man to handle his money for the liquor store which ends up back firing at him. Beneatha side plan is a little more self-fish and she just want to improve her own life, and follow her dreams which is great for her to travel to Africa and help people but that leaves the rest in the family in the same crappy situation. Do you think that the grandma's idea is better than Walter's and beneatha's ? Did you find any symbols in the story? One symbol I found was when Ruth told Walter to, be quiet an eat his eggs. Being quiet and eating one’s eggs represents an acceptance of the adversity that Walter and the rest of the Youngers face in life. Walter believes that Ruth, who is making his eggs, keeps him from achieving his dream, and he argues that she should be more supportive of him. The eggs she makes day after day symbolize her mechanical approach to supporting him. She provides him with nourishment, but always in the same, every day way
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Post by Eddie Austin on Jun 24, 2013 21:01:26 GMT
Well in the story "Ä raisin in the Sun" the author uses some controversy between the characters in the story to make interesting. By controversy I mean makes the characters make decisions of what they want and what they need. The controversy or the arguement in the story is each adult character in the story has a dream of what they would like to do with the money they are going to get from the insurance policy from Mr. Youngers death. Even though each one of the characters had dreams they couldn't have them all, so they had to choose from what they really needed for the whole family. I think that the author made this story exciting and interesting to the readers by, using arguements and tough life decisions to show them and the readers that no matter what if you stick together as family nothing can tear you apart. The reason its interesting to the readers is that everyone can relate to them by having dreams of what they wanted but also had to make choices so they could still survive and better thier familys. I can understand where you can get that thought. Each of the family members have different ways of seeing how the money will be spent. That was a big thing between the three of them. Walter wanted to do ridiculous things like wanting to go to the liquor store. The wife of Walter wants to get an abortion with the money. She feel that they cant go on with the child. They don’t have the funds to take care of a newborn. Also the mother want to get a better house and have something they can have that’s good in the future.
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